WooHoo!

That's exactly what's needed.

Thanks for listening.

-Bruce

I didn't see any mention of an actual trade-in program in this thread. Must have been elsewhere.

<rant on>
The big issue is that there is no visible progress, no commitment from Neurostech, and no mention of upgrade plans or policy. That leaves everyone with an ATI board in HW limbo with no clue as whether they should ebay the questionable HW or keep using something that makes everyone ask "why does it tear like that?" and "it's pretty crappy video quality isn't it".  I'm getting sick of explaining it.

_Any_ announcement, even of something 3 months off would do wonders to stifle the rising bad feelings and that "taken advantage of", "duped", "abandoned" (quoted from other posters) feelings.

You're biggest support base is the open source community. What do you think they're saying about the link now? I'd like to post on slashdot about how Neurostech followed through on their commitment to the early adopters and took care of everyone to took the gamble that they would get it working, instead of what has actually happened.

You've said we can't buy the  card so we're stuck waiting for Neurostech if we want to continue to be supported.  So do something!!

My wife keeps saying that it's a piece of crap the way it stands and is pushing me to bug another #!#%#@ tivo which I don't want to do, but unless I have a clear answer as to when this will get fixed, I will have to.


This wait and do nothing with no information or any clue as to what, if anything, willl happen is so incredibly frustrating.

</rant off>

-Bruce

The board used in the nVidia LINK is the Asus M3N78-VM.  It appears that the GeForce 8200 on that board is not available as a discrete card.

So what's the upgrade/trade in price for one of these?

-Bruce

ping

What's the model of the Nvidia card that neurostech recommends? I'll upgrade my own damn hardware.

I don't have any 720p H.264 files to test with so maybe someone else can help you from here.

I was one of the lucky ones who was given an Nvidia board to test with. The Nvidia works great for everything but flash based stuff (ATI didn't handle that well either). However, for downloaded content (which most of mine is) the Nvidia vastly outperformed the ATI due to VDPAU support.

This is exactly what I'm after. whatever nvidia based card that Neuros is going to stand behind that also supports the vdpau driver. Presumably one that doesn't have a noisy fan. Where do I sign up for one ?

-Bruce

The primary issue with the ATi chipset is that it is an ATi chipset.  The Linux drivers do not perform as ATi had promised, and that is what is causing most of the non-flash performance issues.  (Flash is much better, but not perfect, on nVidia.)  So while yes, that video card would work well with the LINK board, it would not improve your performance much since it uses the same driver base.

However, the ATi should be able to handle Blu-Ray playback...  What drive are you using, and what playback software?  It appears that there's only one or two programs available (PowerDVD has the most chatter) for Linux that handle Blu-Ray without questionable legality.

Tested with both the current link software release, but I've also tried ubuntu 9.10 with:
0 10:13:02 tv@tv  ~
0 %> dpkg -l |grep fgl
ii  fglrx-amdcccle                        2:8.660-0ubuntu4                                       Catalyst Control Center for the ATI graphics accelerator
ii  fglrx-kernel-source                   2:8.660-0ubuntu4                                       Kernel module source for the ATI graphics accelerators
ii  fglrx-modaliases                      2:8.660-0ubuntu4                                       Identifiers supported by the ATI graphics driver
ii  xorg-driver-fglrx                     2:8.660-0ubuntu4                                       Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators
0 10:13:07 tv@tv  ~

same result.

As for the source, any mkv encoded blue-ray video. File props attached to this post.

How many ATI boards were sold?  Would it not be simpler to upgrade everyone to nvidia hardware? Whether it's the new MOBO or an nvidia card, this would allow Neuros to be rid of ATI forever and focus on one firmware release and not have the ATI hardware owners forever being the ugly step-children that no one wants to deal with.
Ask your engineers whether they would prefer to focus on only one version. I'd put $$$ on that being a unanimous yes.

I'm sure Neuros could negotiate a pretty killer price for a bunch  of nvidia cards. I'd go buy my own, except that I want to make sure it remains supported by Neuros, this is why Neuros needs to make the call on what the official card is.

This "do nothing and wait" is the worst possible action as it frustrates users, the ones who took the gamble and bought in early with the promise that Neuros would "make it work". Inaction will kill the motivation of all early adopter hackers. They will chalk this up as a bad experience and move on.

Make the call. Name a card/MOBO, set a price for the upgrade path, and drop ATI support. You will save $$$ in the long run for not having to backport every fix to the ATI version, and cut down your testing permutations by a factor of 2. I write software, I know what the multiple QA and support will cost you.
At the same time you eliminate all bad feelings of abandonment and make all the folk who bought in early happy. There is no-one who would begrudge a $30 upgrade path.

What's the down side?

-Bruce

I haven't heard anything on this for a long time. The ATI chipset is clearly the weak part of this product. I feel that as an early adopter, I placed my faith in Neuros to make it work, and now you have realized the error, switched hardware and left all the beta users in the cold.
After a year of trying, even after upgrading the CPU and RAM, I cannot get blue ray video to play without massive tearing.

What about something like this:
http://www.buy.com/prod/msi-radeon-hd-4550-graphics-card-pci-express-2-0-x16-1-gb-ddr3-sdram/q/loc/101/212418680.html?adid=17992

Would this work with the link mobo?

Or, is there going to be a nominal cost  mobo exchange program?

-Bruce

Where/when do I send the check and ATI board for an exchange to the nVidia board  ? ( :-)  ... sort of joking...)

-Bruce

While we're talking about upgrades. What's the scoop on migrating the Base OS to karmic, or are you targeting lynx as it's an LTS release?

-Bruce

Nope, nothing is being removed when I install additional stuff. One of the things it keeps trying to get rid of is openjdk-6-jdk.  The rest seem to be a lot of font and lang libs.

-Bruce

Been away for a while, running jaunty/karmic on my link, but I'm tired of integrating everything myself so I'm back. (Lazy)

I've unpacked the link release fo a hard disk as I want more stuff installed, and I like the extra room. However, when I use the update tools, it keeps uninstalling a lot of the packages that I've added. Is there some link package that conflicts with "everything else" that's not part of the link distro?
If so, which package is it?
If not, what is causing all my additions to be added to the uninstall list?

Thanks

-Bruce

DOes anyone know why Boxee wont install on 9.04?  I looked to see if the 64-bit Jaunty is installed but it is not. uname -a gives have i686 verion... thanks in advance...

What's the error?
Can you try it from the command line and post the output?

Will this work with the link chassis?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820223103&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060209&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060209-_-CardReaderAdapter-_-L3A-_-20223103

-Bruce

Tracked it down to the switch port. Jeez, I've _never_ had that happen before.
False alarm.

-Bruce